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- Subject: Re: 1960 Monitor - Strange Behaviour
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- From: tony@zorro.southern.co.nz (Tony McKee)
- Message-ID: <tony.03qv@zorro.southern.co.nz>
- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 23:48:30 +1300
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- Gene Heskett (gene_heskett@wvlink.mpl.com) wrote:
-
- : Well, for starters, when you panic'ed and shut the monitor down the
- : first time, it was obviously in the middle of its "degaussing"
- : routine, an operation that when everything is cold, forces the
- : monitors powerline draw thru a set of coils wrapped around the front
- : of the tube. Under normal conditions, this is timed and throttled down
- : to zero current by a thermal device that gradually bypasses the coil
- : as it heats. Its this slow fade to zero (10 to 15 secs) that
- : demagnetizes the tube, rendering it relatively insensitive to its
- : orientation to the ambient magnetic field of the earth and or the
- : magnetic leakage from the usual $.37 speaker used in the same box.
-
- Hello there Gene, thanks for the interesting reply - and, equally,
- thanks to all those who replied.
-
- Well, what can I say? One lives and learns... 'Degaussing', eh? I've
- heard this procedure mentioned before in this group. One forgets just
- how complex cathode-ray devices really are, and the sub-systems they
- require just to get started. Sure wish I knew more about 'em! (There
- isn't a "Big Dummies Guide To Monitors & TVs" out there, is there?)
- BTW, the Commodore 1960 doesn't have a built-in speaker - the 1084 does.
-
- : Your panic shutdown interrupted the current at one of its current
- : peaks (its an alternating current just like your powerline) leaving
- : the steel mask assembly located about 1 cm inside the glass heavily
- : magnetized. You saw the results. Leaving it off for 10 mins or so
- : resets that thermal device by allowing it to cool, so the next time
- : the process repeated itself correctly, demagnetizing the tubes
- : metallics. Normal operation miraculously restored!
-
- So, that's what lay behind the 'miracle'! Thanks for the tip. ;-)
-
- : Solution to the popping? Open it up and blow the dirt and dust out
- : with an air hose, about 100 psi from 10 cm is about right, unless all
- : you've got is an %^&$#@ (OSHA) air nozzle, in which case a *fresh,
- : soft bristled* paint brush may be use to help dislodge it while you
- : blow. It doesn't have to be 'lox clean' except right around the
- : rubberized wire fitting on the side or top of the tube. This area
- : should be pretty clean, but don't attempt to remove that connection
- : unless you are a technician familiar with both the hazzards and
- : removal methods. You could get a potentially lethal shock from it,
- : even if the monitor has been off for days! You could also use a
- : vacuum cleaner, but I don't recommend it very highly, too much damage
- : has been done by the crevise tool when applied with too much
- : exhuberance. And that little, usually round sucker brush is still 10x
- : bigger than need be, so won't let you get to where you need to. Air is
- : better, preferably outside so you don't have the mess to clean up on
- : that beige rug!
-
- OK. To-day I lugged the monitor out to the kitchen table, removed the
- hood, inspected the internals (with all the authoritativeness that a
- complete novice can muster ;-) ), and cleaned the lot as best I could. I
- could not see any actual burn marks on the circuit boards, so, if there
- was a 'cold-solder arc', it has left no calling card - at least not to
- my un-trained eye.
-
- The insides were cleaner than I expected although a little billow of
- dust did spring up when I shot some air into things. (We keep an older
- type vacuum cleaner out in the garage for just such tasks; it has the
- 'blow-back' facility - bloody good for cleaning the A3000's internals.
- I'd not done the same for the monitor because I've always been under the
- impression that taking off its hood was just too dangerous - I mean,
- regarding the potential for serious electric shock. Silly bloody me,
- there was nothing to it! ;-) ) The upshot is, I could not find any
- visible damage; the 1960 is now very clean and working fine.
-
- Something interesting: The 'Commodore 1960' is actually a Philips tube!
- The following is printed on the tube label:
-
- Philips
- M34EDC12X36
-
-
- Things ain't what they seem! ;-)
-
-
- Thanks again!
-
-
-
- Cheers, Tony McKee
-
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